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Morrison told White in an email. Jay Caspian Kang sounded similar themes in two different New York Times newsletters discussing Fierceton's story. So those questions really came later. By those standards, the standards of real family, not one person I'm related to by blood meets those requirements or even comes close." But in this application they had two questions which are to determine financial aid. "[2], Fierceton was one of 15 freshmen made Civic Scholars, a program focused on social justice and community service, with an emphasis on confronting the intersections of identity and privilege. It seemed like there was a lack of internal emergency protocols within our grad school, the School of Social Policy & Practice. The University of Pennsylvania on Tuesday announced it will stop withholding a master's degree from Mackenzie Fierceton, the former student at the center of a recent New Yorker magazine. We dont believe you. They demanded that the university remove the notation from her file. So one question was: Are you from a low-income family? [1] It appended both the Rhodes report and OSC's as exhibits. Teachers at Whitfield who had been supportive while she was there dropped out of touch. Why were you in the hospital that long? Betsy Reed is The Intercepts editor in chief. It recommended that Fierceton's master's be withheld until she paid a $4,000 fine and that her academic transcript carry a notation that she was sanctioned for her "objective inaccuracy" in answering the first-generation question on her application. That is when I would trace it back to. Asked by the school's wellness director (who later told police she had seen insulting texts from Morrison on Fierceton's phone) about the reasons for the injuries, Fierceton said that she was "clumsy" but did not offer any details. [2], At the beginning of the next school year, Fierceton was examined by her pediatrician, who noticed a large bruise on her arm but chose not to X-ray it, a decision the doctor later regretted. Mackenzie Fierceton is the child of a doctor who attended a private prep school in a wealthy suburb. So I was like: OK, fine. MF: Yeah. "[25], "I cannot avoid the sense that Mackenzie is being faulted for not having suffered enough", Norton told The New Yorker. Enough blood? Ultimately, she lost her Rhodes Scholarship, and Penn withheld her masters degree, demanding a letter of apology. I want to talk about where you think that pushback came from. And even now, The New Yorker quotes a lot from my childhood journals describing my abuse. Fine. And so that was when it really transitioned, the second half of it, into these really intimate questions about my abuse until the point where I was sobbing and couldnt answer the questions anymore. ", "Inside Mackenzie Fierceton's ongoing legal battle with the University", "Mackenzie Fierceton Sets the Record Straight on Losing a Rhodes Scholarship Over Accusations of 'Dishonesty', "Penn community rallies in support of former Rhodes Scholar Mackenzie Fierceton", "Universities must stop fetishizing trauma", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mackenzie_Fierceton&oldid=1138496124, controversy over representation of childhood and abuse, This page was last edited on 10 February 2023, at 00:35. And I think that she kind of encompassed a lot of the stereotypes that people, and also the Penn administrators have about what FGLI students are when in reality, those of us who are part of the community know that theres so many shapes and sizes of FGLI students. What foster family were you with in X,Y, Z year? There were definitely, Im sure. How much research has been done on the foster-care-to-prison-pipeline? It, too, alleged that Fierceton was misrepresenting herself as having been poor and grown up entirely in foster care, with many photos of Fierceton as a little girl on the beach and riding horses, and other activities usually associated with affluence. She thought that he had been very quickly removed from the building. The court had ordered Fierceton and Morrison into family therapy, but the former was too afraid of the latter to do it. Medical records, records from child welfare services, corroborating letters from detectives and lawyers and elementary, middle, and high school teachers, childhood friends, professors basically everyone who had known me. At the end of the march they were addressed by Fierceton and other FGLI students. After Fierceton was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship during her senior year, questions about whether she had accurately represented her background led to investigations by both the Rhodes Trust and Penn that concluded she had at times suggested or failed to correct the impression left by some statements about her, and her own application essays, that she had grown up a poor foster child. But afterwards she was anxious enough about how her mother might react to remain on the other side of the kitchen counter island from Morrison while they talked in the kitchen, "bracing for impact", she wrote in her diary. And we do know for sure that she was in touch with the university. If you enjoy this podcast, be sure to also check out Intercepted as well as Murderville, which is now in its second season. [2], Fierceton shared the information she had with Logan, who in turn took it to a law firm that investigated further. Her supporters at Penn have called for the university's acting provost, Beth Winkelstein, to be held accountable for her role in the investigation, which has been characterized as a continuation of the abuse. And that dynamic, I would say, [laughs] probably played a big part in all of this. She didnt know any of the circumstances of his death. [2], The fine was later withdrawn after it was found to conflict with a provision of the university's charter prohibiting the imposition of fines in cases involving academic integrity. On Saturday afternoon, Fierceton said she found herself in a Zoom meeting for several hours with 10 other finalists from this region. And still, it was just like: Nope. Thank you so much for having me. Thats the reality of it, but we dont want to think of it that way. But it was definitely something I saw happening sort of this funneling of kids from the child welfare to criminal justice system. Mackenzie is currently suing the university. The fact that they even challenged that really does expose a lot of whats going on here because I assume in their mind, theyre saying: Well, she went to this private school; she had a nice house; her mom probably drove a nice car maybe you even drove a decent car! And then the other question was: Are you the first in your family to attend college? Our concern is instead with the conduct of our. Who are your biological family? Whereas white parents, a lot of times, it is much harder the bar is much higher to remove them from their homes because their whiteness or possibly class privilege or whatever identities that they have that might not fit a social worker or judges or whoevers involved perception of whose kids should be in the foster system. Fierceton had apparently made much of her status as a 'first generation, low income' student, an abuse survivor who aged out of foster care. I had no idea what she already knew. Fierceton responded that that showed the university's "vulnerability and desperation". Thank you so much for having me. Those investigations revealed that for the first 17 years of her life, Fierceton was raised by her mother, Dr. Carrie Morrison, an accomplished physician. And so I did definitely have that kind of like: I have no idea what else is going to convince these people. And so was it later, in a different conversation where they asked about the line in the essay about not being able to recognize yourself or is there some illusion to that in the transcript that you found? Mackenzie Fierceton was championed as a former foster youth who had overcome an abusive childhood and won a prestigious Rhodes Scholarship. She expressed some concern to Penn staff that if she won, the media attention might incite her mother and her family to attack her reputation, and expressed on a form she filed with Penn as part of the process a concern of hers that FGLI students such as herself were "pressured to be someone they were not amidst their application process." But the outline of the story is this: Mackenzie was raised in a wealthy St. Louis suburb by a single mother who was repeatedly abusive, according to two state agencies. How do I do that in a succinct way when theres a very short word count and youre trying to fit everyones experience in?And so I didnt really think about: Oh, I need to say: This foster sibling who was in the foster care system. How many people kind of fit that category that you interacted with, and how many kind of fit closer to your category, not just in your own interactions, but also in your research? Like, it seemed like an airtight case from my perspective. Mackenzie is the soap's first transgender character, added to the series after Stone wrote to executive producer Jason Herbison to pitch the character. And so can you talk a little bit about your research? In between those placements, she slept at friends' houses for long periods. Interesting. And so, yes, if the student, then, is no longer useful, I could imagine it turning. [4] It took nearly an hour, during which Fierceton seized intermittently and never completely regained consciousness, for her to be taken to the hospital. She was abused, but there is not enough blood." When I came to Penn and saw all of these students who were living that life, there was a sense of community and solidarity amongst us, which was very powerful for me because I just felt so out of place. And, in this case, almost everyone who was involved in the university administration are upper middle class or very wealthy, highly academically educated white women. And Im Ryan Grim, D.C. bureau chief of The Intercept. Youre welcome to talk to Penn Police or their Division of Special Services or the Womens Center, or any program that Ive been involved in, or people that have been involved in supporting me who can corroborate this. Yeah. And that dynamic, I would say, [laughs] probably played a big part in all of this. [i] Ruderman corroborated that later to The New Yorker, saying she was paraphrasing Fierceton's self-identification as FGLI. So one question was: Are you from a low-income family? I think there were almost 30 of those letters again, very similar to who had given statements in the past to corroborate my abuse as well as leaders in the FGLI community saying yes, we started this community. Im part of a wrongful death lawsuit that was filed in August, 2020. Who will spend some significant amount of time in poverty. And we have our own specific grad school definitions. Fierceton said later that she had never used the word "poor" to describe herself or her childhood. [2] Winkelstein, who has a Ph.D. in bioengineering and has studied injuries,[3] then proceeded to interrogate Fierceton at length about her abuse and hospitalization, in a manner that led Fierceton to believe that not only did Winkelstein doubt her story but had spoken with Morrison. [2], Shortly after the Rhodes investigation began, Rafaelle was informed that Penn was proposing to revoke Fierceton's bachelors on the grounds of her apparent self-misrepresentation. Is that just an interpretation or did they say anything that suggested to you that the fact that you had gone to a private school and grown up in an upper-middle-class situation meant that you could never at any point consider yourself low-income? She is a student who found herself in a complex and easily-misunderstood situation: working towards her degree without support from family. Whereas a social worker comes into a poor home and looks around and sees just the normal poverty that our system has foisted on people and says: Oh, well, clearly this is somebody that needs to be stripped out of here. As youve had time to sort through this, what do you think was driving Penn to go through this process, which they had to know, at some level, would cost them? It's from there the story unraveled. The prosecutor eventually dropped the charges and the arrest record was expunged. So, to cut into the interview here real quick, I wanted to add that Mackenzie is referring to a letter sent to the Rhodes Trust in December 2020. MF: Absolutely. She bounced from one foster home to the next. And thats again, like not because there isnt abuse or neglect going on in families that looked like mine, or biological families that looked like mine. RG: Who will spend some significant amount of time in poverty. 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Morrison told White in an email. Jay Caspian Kang sounded similar themes in two different New York Times newsletters discussing Fierceton's story. So those questions really came later. By those standards, the standards of real family, not one person I'm related to by blood meets those requirements or even comes close." But in this application they had two questions which are to determine financial aid. "[2], Fierceton was one of 15 freshmen made Civic Scholars, a program focused on social justice and community service, with an emphasis on confronting the intersections of identity and privilege. It seemed like there was a lack of internal emergency protocols within our grad school, the School of Social Policy & Practice. The University of Pennsylvania on Tuesday announced it will stop withholding a master's degree from Mackenzie Fierceton, the former student at the center of a recent New Yorker magazine. We dont believe you. They demanded that the university remove the notation from her file. So one question was: Are you from a low-income family? [1] It appended both the Rhodes report and OSC's as exhibits. Teachers at Whitfield who had been supportive while she was there dropped out of touch. Why were you in the hospital that long? Betsy Reed is The Intercepts editor in chief. It recommended that Fierceton's master's be withheld until she paid a $4,000 fine and that her academic transcript carry a notation that she was sanctioned for her "objective inaccuracy" in answering the first-generation question on her application. That is when I would trace it back to. Asked by the school's wellness director (who later told police she had seen insulting texts from Morrison on Fierceton's phone) about the reasons for the injuries, Fierceton said that she was "clumsy" but did not offer any details. [2], At the beginning of the next school year, Fierceton was examined by her pediatrician, who noticed a large bruise on her arm but chose not to X-ray it, a decision the doctor later regretted. Mackenzie Fierceton is the child of a doctor who attended a private prep school in a wealthy suburb. So I was like: OK, fine. MF: Yeah. "[25], "I cannot avoid the sense that Mackenzie is being faulted for not having suffered enough", Norton told The New Yorker. Enough blood? Ultimately, she lost her Rhodes Scholarship, and Penn withheld her masters degree, demanding a letter of apology. I want to talk about where you think that pushback came from. And even now, The New Yorker quotes a lot from my childhood journals describing my abuse. Fine. And so that was when it really transitioned, the second half of it, into these really intimate questions about my abuse until the point where I was sobbing and couldnt answer the questions anymore. ", "Inside Mackenzie Fierceton's ongoing legal battle with the University", "Mackenzie Fierceton Sets the Record Straight on Losing a Rhodes Scholarship Over Accusations of 'Dishonesty', "Penn community rallies in support of former Rhodes Scholar Mackenzie Fierceton", "Universities must stop fetishizing trauma", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mackenzie_Fierceton&oldid=1138496124, controversy over representation of childhood and abuse, This page was last edited on 10 February 2023, at 00:35. And I think that she kind of encompassed a lot of the stereotypes that people, and also the Penn administrators have about what FGLI students are when in reality, those of us who are part of the community know that theres so many shapes and sizes of FGLI students. What foster family were you with in X,Y, Z year? There were definitely, Im sure. How much research has been done on the foster-care-to-prison-pipeline? It, too, alleged that Fierceton was misrepresenting herself as having been poor and grown up entirely in foster care, with many photos of Fierceton as a little girl on the beach and riding horses, and other activities usually associated with affluence. She thought that he had been very quickly removed from the building. The court had ordered Fierceton and Morrison into family therapy, but the former was too afraid of the latter to do it. Medical records, records from child welfare services, corroborating letters from detectives and lawyers and elementary, middle, and high school teachers, childhood friends, professors basically everyone who had known me. At the end of the march they were addressed by Fierceton and other FGLI students. After Fierceton was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship during her senior year, questions about whether she had accurately represented her background led to investigations by both the Rhodes Trust and Penn that concluded she had at times suggested or failed to correct the impression left by some statements about her, and her own application essays, that she had grown up a poor foster child. But afterwards she was anxious enough about how her mother might react to remain on the other side of the kitchen counter island from Morrison while they talked in the kitchen, "bracing for impact", she wrote in her diary. And we do know for sure that she was in touch with the university. If you enjoy this podcast, be sure to also check out Intercepted as well as Murderville, which is now in its second season. [2], Fierceton shared the information she had with Logan, who in turn took it to a law firm that investigated further. Her supporters at Penn have called for the university's acting provost, Beth Winkelstein, to be held accountable for her role in the investigation, which has been characterized as a continuation of the abuse. And that dynamic, I would say, [laughs] probably played a big part in all of this. She didnt know any of the circumstances of his death. [2], The fine was later withdrawn after it was found to conflict with a provision of the university's charter prohibiting the imposition of fines in cases involving academic integrity. On Saturday afternoon, Fierceton said she found herself in a Zoom meeting for several hours with 10 other finalists from this region. And still, it was just like: Nope. Thank you so much for having me. Thats the reality of it, but we dont want to think of it that way. But it was definitely something I saw happening sort of this funneling of kids from the child welfare to criminal justice system. Mackenzie is currently suing the university. The fact that they even challenged that really does expose a lot of whats going on here because I assume in their mind, theyre saying: Well, she went to this private school; she had a nice house; her mom probably drove a nice car maybe you even drove a decent car! And then the other question was: Are you the first in your family to attend college? Our concern is instead with the conduct of our. Who are your biological family? Whereas white parents, a lot of times, it is much harder the bar is much higher to remove them from their homes because their whiteness or possibly class privilege or whatever identities that they have that might not fit a social worker or judges or whoevers involved perception of whose kids should be in the foster system. Fierceton had apparently made much of her status as a 'first generation, low income' student, an abuse survivor who aged out of foster care. I had no idea what she already knew. Fierceton responded that that showed the university's "vulnerability and desperation". Thank you so much for having me. Those investigations revealed that for the first 17 years of her life, Fierceton was raised by her mother, Dr. Carrie Morrison, an accomplished physician. And so I did definitely have that kind of like: I have no idea what else is going to convince these people. And so was it later, in a different conversation where they asked about the line in the essay about not being able to recognize yourself or is there some illusion to that in the transcript that you found? Mackenzie Fierceton was championed as a former foster youth who had overcome an abusive childhood and won a prestigious Rhodes Scholarship. She expressed some concern to Penn staff that if she won, the media attention might incite her mother and her family to attack her reputation, and expressed on a form she filed with Penn as part of the process a concern of hers that FGLI students such as herself were "pressured to be someone they were not amidst their application process." But the outline of the story is this: Mackenzie was raised in a wealthy St. Louis suburb by a single mother who was repeatedly abusive, according to two state agencies. How do I do that in a succinct way when theres a very short word count and youre trying to fit everyones experience in?And so I didnt really think about: Oh, I need to say: This foster sibling who was in the foster care system. How many people kind of fit that category that you interacted with, and how many kind of fit closer to your category, not just in your own interactions, but also in your research? Like, it seemed like an airtight case from my perspective. Mackenzie is the soap's first transgender character, added to the series after Stone wrote to executive producer Jason Herbison to pitch the character. And so can you talk a little bit about your research? In between those placements, she slept at friends' houses for long periods. Interesting. And so, yes, if the student, then, is no longer useful, I could imagine it turning. [4] It took nearly an hour, during which Fierceton seized intermittently and never completely regained consciousness, for her to be taken to the hospital. She was abused, but there is not enough blood." When I came to Penn and saw all of these students who were living that life, there was a sense of community and solidarity amongst us, which was very powerful for me because I just felt so out of place. And, in this case, almost everyone who was involved in the university administration are upper middle class or very wealthy, highly academically educated white women. And Im Ryan Grim, D.C. bureau chief of The Intercept. Youre welcome to talk to Penn Police or their Division of Special Services or the Womens Center, or any program that Ive been involved in, or people that have been involved in supporting me who can corroborate this. Yeah. And that dynamic, I would say, [laughs] probably played a big part in all of this. [i] Ruderman corroborated that later to The New Yorker, saying she was paraphrasing Fierceton's self-identification as FGLI. So one question was: Are you from a low-income family? I think there were almost 30 of those letters again, very similar to who had given statements in the past to corroborate my abuse as well as leaders in the FGLI community saying yes, we started this community. Im part of a wrongful death lawsuit that was filed in August, 2020. Who will spend some significant amount of time in poverty. And we have our own specific grad school definitions. Fierceton said later that she had never used the word "poor" to describe herself or her childhood. [2] Winkelstein, who has a Ph.D. in bioengineering and has studied injuries,[3] then proceeded to interrogate Fierceton at length about her abuse and hospitalization, in a manner that led Fierceton to believe that not only did Winkelstein doubt her story but had spoken with Morrison. [2], Shortly after the Rhodes investigation began, Rafaelle was informed that Penn was proposing to revoke Fierceton's bachelors on the grounds of her apparent self-misrepresentation. Is that just an interpretation or did they say anything that suggested to you that the fact that you had gone to a private school and grown up in an upper-middle-class situation meant that you could never at any point consider yourself low-income? She is a student who found herself in a complex and easily-misunderstood situation: working towards her degree without support from family. Whereas a social worker comes into a poor home and looks around and sees just the normal poverty that our system has foisted on people and says: Oh, well, clearly this is somebody that needs to be stripped out of here. As youve had time to sort through this, what do you think was driving Penn to go through this process, which they had to know, at some level, would cost them? It's from there the story unraveled. The prosecutor eventually dropped the charges and the arrest record was expunged. So, to cut into the interview here real quick, I wanted to add that Mackenzie is referring to a letter sent to the Rhodes Trust in December 2020. MF: Absolutely. She bounced from one foster home to the next. And thats again, like not because there isnt abuse or neglect going on in families that looked like mine, or biological families that looked like mine. RG: Who will spend some significant amount of time in poverty. 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